Ban bamboo.

Gorman

Gorman

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I hate this invasive plant and while driving around I see homeowners making this mistake time and time again. We get the calls to deal with this stuff either from the boneheads who planted it or their unfortunate neighbors that then have to deal with it in their yard.
I am a firm and ardent defender of personal property rights and liberty but I want a ban on this species. Full ban.
 
Gorman said:
I hate this invasive plant and while driving around I see homeowners making this mistake time and time again. We get the calls to deal with this stuff either from the boneheads who planted it or their unfortunate neighbors that then have to deal with it in their yard.
I am a firm and ardent defender of personal property rights and liberty but I want a ban on this species. Full ban.
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I could go for planting licenses, with liability on the installer if they put it anywhere it shouldn't go, but the damage that has already been done would take generational effort to undo, so perhaps a full ban for a while would be helpful. I dunno. Slippery slopes with full bans. I do however agree with the pear tree bans that exist in many places.
 
Matias said:
I could go for planting licenses, with liability on the installer if they put it anywhere it shouldn't go, but the damage that has already been done would take generational effort to undo, so perhaps a full ban for a while would be helpful. I dunno. Slippery slopes with full bans. I do however agree with the pear tree bans that exist in many places.
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Oh man! We got a slippery slope guy here!
 
Has anybody been successful in containing bamboo?
I have one custy who has a patch and they aren’t the best at managing it. I keep pushing for full removal scorched earth style.
 
What prompted the pear tree ban? In my neighbourhood they're mediocre healthy fruit bearers.
 
I know there is at least one species that doesn’t spread so voraciously like the others and is actually easy to manage.

Flowering pears are just terrible. An appropriate ban. The only pruning they should get is the one cut prune.
 
Bart_ said:
What prompted the pear tree ban? In my neighbourhood they're mediocre healthy fruit bearers.
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Callery pear (Pyrus calleryana) - cultivars such as 'Bradford', 'Aristocrat', 'Chanticleer' ('Cleveland Select'), 'Autumn Blaze' is what is being banned.

The are very invasive in wild areas.

But even before the states started banning them altogether, many cities prohibited planting them in tree lawns because they have horrible structure and weak wood so they regularly fail in storms.
 
ATH said:
Callery pear (Pyrus calleryana) - cultivars such as 'Bradford', 'Aristocrat', 'Chanticleer' ('Cleveland Select'), 'Autumn Blaze' is what is being banned.

The are very invasive in wild areas.

But even before the states started banning them altogether, many cities prohibited planting them in tree lawns because they have horrible structure and weak wood so they regularly fail in storms.
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This is the best way I’ve seen them described without profanity and obscenities. Thank you.
 
Bendroctanus said:
This is the best way I’ve seen them described without profanity and obscenities. Thank you.
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I will second what he says as well, we have a lot of Bradford and Cleveland Select around here, every time the wind blows they drop big pieces. They are also popping up all over the place in the woods and wildlands, and they are not native to this area. While I am generally against banning things, I can't complain too much about that ban because I do not like that tree.
 
Matias said:
I could go for planting licenses, with liability on the installer if they put it anywhere it shouldn't go, but the damage that has already been done would take generational effort to undo, so perhaps a full ban for a while would be helpful. I dunno. Slippery slopes with full bans. I do however agree with the pear tree bans that exist in many places.
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There is a whole list of those!

I don't know that there is a great answer. Ohio has a growing list of banned non-native invasive species, but to make the list it has to be a proven problem. Well, once's its a proven problem it is like shutting the barn door after the horse is out. Strike that...the horse is out, the barn has been sold, demolished and a subdivision built in its place. That's what it's like.

But I'm not complaining that people can no longer plant:
Pear
Oriental honeysuckles
Autumn olive
Barberry
Privet

These are some of the bad woodland invasives I've spent many days controlling in woodland environments. Not to mention not needing to talk people out of planting pear simply because its a horrible yard tree.

Current list:
 
In Toronto I've never seen a giant limb dropping type pear tree. They're always graft-stock based little fruit bearing semi-sickly trees. Seen the odd cherry tree get up a head of steam before suddenly dying within a 1 or two year span. Still, not big, maybe 3 stories max rarely, usually only two stories high. Years ago my Italian neighbour was proud of his home grafted 3 types of pears on one tree:)

I guess it's different in your neck of the woods. We do, however, have black locust ;) and silver maple. and Manitoba maple. and Russian olive.
 
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I’m be heard of bamboo varieties that aren’t so aggressive in expansion,

Ive thought about containing them (bamboo) in a large drain tile or something similar cut hotdog way in half.

Also second the Bradford pear sentiment. They crowd out other native species and the flowers smell like a 2$ hooker after they fall in the spring.
 
flushcut said:
Has anybody been successful in containing bamboo?
I have one custy who has a patch and they aren’t the best at managing it. I keep pushing for full removal scorched earth style.
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NE Ohio; Snow belt; ~10 miles S of Lake Erie
In 2014, I planted a couple "test plants" from Holden Arboretum.
Fargesia Rufa - hardy clumping bamboo

I later, cut root sections to plant ~ 10 clumps along the drive.

per the Holden plant label:
"This bamboo is a native of China, where it is said to be one of the primary food plants of the giant panda. In gardens it is a well-behaved, non-running plant of dense, arching habit, where it functions as a fine-textured shrub. Fargesia rufa grows at a moderate rate to a mature height and spread of 6-8 feet. It is the most evergreen of the clumping bamboos, and every year more half-inch diameter reddish clumps (stems) emerge from the base. Fargesia rufa is native to forests, and performs best in light to moderate shade, but will also do well in sites with direct sun in the morning or late afternoon. It is adapted to a variety of soil types with average to moist conditions, but drainage must be good."

They are now very well controlled.
The widest is ~ 4 ft; & only 4 ft tall.
 
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If my memory serves me correctly, (And I'm getting to the age where it can play nasty tricks on me), the Callery Pear and its other brethren were developed in Ohio nurseries. I find that somewhat ironic.
 
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